Missouri FairTax Association Discussions - Fair Tax Nation2024-03-29T05:32:52Zhttp://www.fairtaxnation.com/group/missourifairtax/forum?feed=yes&xn_auth=noVicky Hartzler Town Hall 10/1 3:30 PM at City Hall in Richmond, MOtag:www.fairtaxnation.com,2010-09-28:2636007:Topic:1127522010-09-28T23:19:18.317ZJerry Fowlerhttp://www.fairtaxnation.com/profile/JerryFowler
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<p>On Friday October 1st at 3:30 PM at the City Hall in Richmond, MO we will be holding a Town Hall event for Vicky Hartzler, Republican Candidate for the U.S. House of Representatives for Missouri's 4th District.</p>
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<p>All are invited to come and show your support for Vicky. The Homecoming parade starts at 2:00 PM earlier in the afternoon and if you are interested in walking for Vicky in the parade please reply to this discussion.</p>
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<p>On Friday October 1st at 3:30 PM at the City Hall in Richmond, MO we will be holding a Town Hall event for Vicky Hartzler, Republican Candidate for the U.S. House of Representatives for Missouri's 4th District.</p>
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<p>All are invited to come and show your support for Vicky. The Homecoming parade starts at 2:00 PM earlier in the afternoon and if you are interested in walking for Vicky in the parade please reply to this discussion.</p> A Discussion of the Issuestag:www.fairtaxnation.com,2010-07-26:2636007:Topic:1059462010-07-26T00:12:22.312ZJerry Fowlerhttp://www.fairtaxnation.com/profile/JerryFowler
<p>I had the following email discussion with Curry Kenworthy yesterday and with his permission I am reposting it.</p>
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<p>I am glad to see that you are running against Cleaver and I hope that effort is successful.</p>
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<p>Your issue positions are great. Having you in the House would make a difference. I appreciate you contacting me here on ResistNet, which I joined but hadn't had time to use much. Here are a few friendly ideas to consider from a…</p>
<p>I had the following email discussion with Curry Kenworthy yesterday and with his permission I am reposting it.</p>
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<p>I am glad to see that you are running against Cleaver and I hope that effort is successful.</p>
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<p>Your issue positions are great. Having you in the House would make a difference. I appreciate you contacting me here on ResistNet, which I joined but hadn't had time to use much. Here are a few friendly ideas to consider from a supportive constituent!</p>
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<p>1. I notice that you are a big supporter of Fair Tax. Anything (almost) is better than the current system, but the Fair Tax doesn't do it for me. It's a good idea turned in the wrong direction; despite some other advantages, there are big flaws. Those prebates will require lots of bureaucracy, and the tax rate is still pretty high!</p>
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<p>For American people to regain freedom and prosperity, government must learn to live within its means just as we do. I think a flat sales tax of 10% for everyone, rich or poor, should be sufficient for federal government. The American people must be firm and stop them from demanding more than 10%. No prebates; if we want to avoid taxing poverty spending, simply allow stores to charge no tax for bread, milk, eggs, and veggies at the checkout.</p>
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<p>2. We also need to cut the number of people on the dole. I have a handicap (CMT, a nerve disease that weakens muscles) but I am working hard to make money from home so that I can avoid going on disability if possible. (That's after a long and difficult struggle over the past years where I had to cut down more and more working outside the home, but I've never applied for disability yet.) In America we have a huge number of people that can work part-time but not full-time, and a lot of people with handicaps fall into that category. But under the old all-or-nothing benefits system, working part-time is pretty hopeless. Many people are either on disability or working part-time and leaning on the government for health care or etc. If we could encourage a per-hour benefits system at work rather than all-or-nothing, or just raise wages and cut out benefits, letting each employee decide on healthcare (and ditch ObamaCare of course) we could have more people working and fewer depending on government.</p>
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<p>3. The deficit will kill this nation. Long term, we need law preventing Congress from spending more than it can repay within a reasonable time, say three years, but how to pay off the current debt is a mind-boggling puzzle, so perhaps for now we need a complete ban on any further debt spending until the current debt has been paid off and we've been in the black for a while. Goodness knows when that would be, but at least not raising the debt would be a step in the right direction!</p>
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<p>Some food for thought--good luck in your campaign! Sounds like you have plenty of good ideas too.</p>
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<p>Curry Kenworthy</p>
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<p>In an additional note:</p>
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<p>Then there's state and local tax. How do you feel about property taxes, by the way? Do you really own something if you have to keep paying to retain it?"</p>
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<p>This my response to Curry.</p>
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<p><br/>You are correct that I am a big supporter of the FairTax. The other candidates in this race appear to be generally favorable to the FairTax, but I am the only candidate that can truly be called a FairTax advocate (or FairTaxer for short).</p>
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<p>Let's address your perception of the bureaucracy associated with the prebate. To be eligible for the prebate, a qualified family (defined as "1 or more family members sharing a common residence") must submit an annual registration that requires each individual family member be a lawful resident of the U.S. and have a bona fide Social Security number. With the FairTax, this form is much simpler than the Federal Income Tax forms which will be eliiminated. FairTax will eliminate 80% of all tax returns (and all individual filing returns).</p>
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<p>The prebate amount is based upon the poverty level (as determined by the Department of Health and Human Services) for the size of the family and multipled by FairTax rate to refund the tax paid on basic necessities. The Social Security Administration bears the responsibility to make the monthly prebate payments on or before the first business day of the month for which the prebate is being provided. This can in the form of a check, smartcards that carry a cash balance, or by direct electronic deposits.</p>
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<p>While there may be some additional staffing required in the Social Security Administration, this would be more than offset by eliminating the Internal Revenue Service resulting in a net reduction in the size (and cost) of our Federal government.</p>
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<p>Initially the tax rate is high but it is designed be "revenue-neutral", in other words to bring in the same amount of revenue as the current system. It is important to note that the FairTax is only paid on the purchases of new products and not on used items, therefore there is no FairTax on used automobiles or clothing purchased at a second-hand store.</p>
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<p>After the first year, the tax rate is the calculated on 3 factors one of which is the gerneral revenue rate of 14.91%. As we reduce the size of government and pay down the national debt, this rate could amended downward.</p>
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<p>I understand your recommendation on a 10% flat tax but initially we need to keep the tax revenue to the federal government consistent with current levels. Avoiding taxation on food items is understandable, but clothing is also a necessity even at the poverty level. If clothing is included then a determination at the point of sale is needed to verify eligibility of the purchaser for non-payment of the tax. That would increase administration costs, is subject to fraud, and may increase the costs on those businesses who sell clothing. FairTax does avoids the potential for fraud and compliance costs.</p>
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<p>I agree with you regarding the need to reduce the number of people on government welfare. House Minority Lead John Boehner has proposed some unemployment reforms (which I have included in my <a href="http://www.jerryfowlerforcongress.com/page5.shtml">Issues In-Depth</a> for Unemployment) that should help in this area. In the healthcare arena, moving away from an employer provided benefits program to an individual based program eliminates the distinction between part-time and full-time employment. The insurance pool could be based on a geographical area as opposed to the number of full-time employees at an individual company.</p>
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<p>Lastly regarding the deficit, I couldn't agree with you more heartily. If you will review the <a href="http://www.jerryfowlerforcongress.com/page5.shtml">Issues In-Depth</a> for Budget Reform on my campaign website, if there was a budget deficit the previous year(revenue minus expenditures is a negative balance) then the budget is frozen and cannot be increased over the previous year. When there are budget surpluses they are used to pay down the federal debt and when the federal debt is retired to reduce the tax rate.</p>
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<p>Both FairTax and budget reform measures are required to pay off the federal debt and stop the annual deficit spending that is occurring.</p>
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<p>Regarding state and local taxes, the FairTax passed the State House in Missouri but expired in the State Senate due to a threat of a filibuster from the Democratic Senate Minority leader this year.</p>
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<p>I am in favor of fiscal responsibility at all levels of government and am opposed to property taxes. As you correctly point out, you don't really own something if it can be taken for non-payment of property taxes."</p>
<p><br/><a href="http://www.jerryfowlerforcongress.com/">Jerry Fowler for U.S. House of Representatives (MO-5)</a></p> Attend FairTaxKC Volunteer Meeting July 8thtag:www.fairtaxnation.com,2010-07-05:2636007:Topic:1047742010-07-05T17:27:46.865ZJerry Fowlerhttp://www.fairtaxnation.com/profile/JerryFowler
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</div> FairTax.org (AFFT) promoting Grass Roots Freedom Ride (GRFR) for FairTaxtag:www.fairtaxnation.com,2009-03-20:2636007:Topic:355812009-03-20T14:27:49.368ZCarol Adams McLeanhttp://www.fairtaxnation.com/profile/CarolAdamsMcLean
Hello FairTax Directors, Coordinators and Supporters,<br />
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During the last month GRFR has been working with Ken Hoagland at AFFT, who is nationally promoting the Grass Roots Freedom Ride for FairTax (GRFR). FairTax.org has created a web tool to promote "freedom riders" throughout the country, a fund raising tool for use in every town. With our twist to this walk-a-thon concept, we believe we can create greater visibility and funds for FairTax promotion, by using this tool for fun promotional…
Hello FairTax Directors, Coordinators and Supporters,<br />
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During the last month GRFR has been working with Ken Hoagland at AFFT, who is nationally promoting the Grass Roots Freedom Ride for FairTax (GRFR). FairTax.org has created a web tool to promote "freedom riders" throughout the country, a fund raising tool for use in every town. With our twist to this walk-a-thon concept, we believe we can create greater visibility and funds for FairTax promotion, by using this tool for fun promotional activities.<br />
The really exciting news is that half of the funds raised through this motorcycle effort will go to the GRFR consortium, an entity created to disperse funds raised through GRFR for grass roots supporters throughout the country, not just in the southeast. And it will bring funds into all participating areas through merchandise sales and participant fees. We need every state with a strong presence for FairTax. This is our opportunity to move quickly towards passage of the FairTax by creating fun events easily assembled using these tools and this support structure. Our goal is to bring more funding to smaller groups as well as using consortium funds for grass roots efforts creatively and frugally. Some ideas are listed below.<br />
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How the program works - Enroll as a chapter captain, chapter member or an individual for $25/year membership. You receive a FairTax Flag and a GRFR patch and a personal page to state your activities (either through your chapter or alone) to raise pledges. With your enrollment as a chapter Captain, you will have access to a Chapter page to outline events you develop with your team. Working with GRFR, Chapter captains can receive supplies that we have available at cost, even for small orders. These supplies can be sold locally to raise funds for the local chapter. All event donations can also remain with the local chapter, or sent to AFFT if desired. GRFR wants to work with chapter captains who request assistance to create fun events (poker runs, walkathons, whatever twist you want) to raise funds both for AFFT and the needs of the local group.<br />
GRFR Patch with membership 1.5" cloisonne pledge pin<br />
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We also will offer incentives to your pledgers - for a $25 or more donation to AFFT for your ride , we have a beautiful 1.5" cloisonne FairTax Pin that we will distribute through chapter<br />
captains. The web tool at FairTax.org makes contacting friends and family easy with<br />
pre-written letters that can be personalized for each member.<br />
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Local Benefits of joining the GRFR Program-<br />
Supply store - All chapters of GRFR can buy small orders of 10-25 pieces at bulk pricing (initially; when funds permit, we may be able to give supplies to active groups). Currently AFFT raises no funds through their FairTax promotional supplies at FairTax.org. We need FairTax visible everywhere and supplies available at low or no cost. Flags & bandanas are currently available at GRFR. We are ordering temp tattoos, balloons and window clings for the supply store. What merchandise do you want to see at your event that you can mark up and keep the profit in your area? Contact admin@grassrootsfreedomride.com<br />
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Participant Fees Stay with local group - Membership in GRFR is $25/year which goes to AFFT and the consortium. Events are planned at the local level, geared towards a fun activity. Anyone can participate in the activity with an associated fee set at the local level that will remain at the local level. An example would be a "Fun Run for FairTax" - organizers must be part of GRFR, can collect pledges on line with incentives offered to their donors (cloisonne FairTax Pin currently for pledges over $25). Anyone interested can participate in the run for $10 entrance fee (that remains with the group, if the leadership wants it to). Members of GRFR thru FairTax.org can collect pledges for their run, with the money going to 50% to AFFT and 50% to the GRFR Consortium.<br />
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Consortium Funds - The consortium will review ideas and will invest in those with high visibility and cost effectiveness, Some ideas are scholarships for college students' essays for FairTax, a float in a parade, a rally or a FairTax ID Card for individuals and businesses that support the FairTax.<br />
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AFFT Funds - for use by the national organization for rallies and their other necessary national efforts<br />
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Please Help In This Effort<br />
Motorcycle Clubs -If you're not a biker, please contact biker groups in your area to offer a speaker about the FairTax and this program. Most bikers are freedom lovers, and without economic freedom, there is no freedom. Motorcycle clubs are formed by common interest or by bike make (Honda, Harley, Kawasaki). This is a promising niche for FairTax support. Bikers tend to be generous and they show up for rides because they're fun. Attached is a brochure for GRFR if you would like to hand out materials. Your investment of time and treasure in this project has potential for a great payout for FairTax. Also attached is a flier GRFR raffle for a very impressive $40 K bike, with proceeds going into the GRFR consortium (not staying in NC). Some points you might stress is the need to ACT NOW to protect discretionary income that bikers give to many other good causes. Offer motorcycle clubs a speaker for FairTax.<br />
Bicycling clubs, Classic Car Clubs, Hiking Clubs, Walking Clubs and clubs that form around a group activity - if you're in one, see if you can organize an event for FairTax!<br />
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GRFR website<br />
This website will remain to promote other consortium activities that AFFT cannot promote legally ( ie. the raffle, sponsored by NCFairTax.org). GRFR is part of NCFairTax.org who is under agreement with the consortium for dispersal of all funds raised through GRFR. Simply put, the money raised does not stay in NC, or the south east. Supporting the raffle supports the entire effort and you might get a really cool bike out of the deal! Bikers not interested in the FairTax may want to take a shot for this bike - it's better odds than the lottery and it's a beautiful machine. Tickets are on sale at our website and at our events. Please hand out attached flier.<br />
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GRFR will also focus attention on working with chapter captains to assist in making events successful. What we learn we'll pass on. April 15 we're having a poker run. We'll have all the info to replicate a poker run available to all biker/car chapter captains of GRFR. As we find successful fun events to plan, we'll pass along information. Your help is needed in your creative ideas..<br />
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Closing Thoughts<br />
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200 million people of voting age in the US<br />
1% is 2 million people (comparable to Kansas City)<br />
If that 1% donates $25/month that's $50,000,000/mo. If we can do that for one year, with half going to AFFT and half coming back to benefit your group, we'll see FairTax enacted. FairTax will not enjoy big donors because no one wants IRS scrutiny. FairTax will only happen when we unite financially for the benefit of all areas. As our economy dips, people will start looking more seriously for real change in our govt. I believe we have an opportunity in this financial crisis to finally get FairTax passed These small donations won't break most people and we would get our country back. People are ready for investment for positive change. Only new funds going into the GRFR fundraiser are split with the grass roots effort, the incentive program and the supply store program.<br />
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Thanks for your time and ongoing FairTax work. We hope this project can work for you! Only funds collected through GRFR at the FairTax.org go towards these programs. Sorry this is so long. Urging politicians' supporttag:www.fairtaxnation.com,2009-03-10:2636007:Topic:317162009-03-10T20:20:38.472ZJohn L Whipple Jrhttp://www.fairtaxnation.com/profile/JohnLWhippleJr
In my opinion I think many politicians don't support the Fair Tax because it would make raising taxes too visible to the taxpayers. How can we promote the Fair Tax to politicians in a manner that would overcome this??
In my opinion I think many politicians don't support the Fair Tax because it would make raising taxes too visible to the taxpayers. How can we promote the Fair Tax to politicians in a manner that would overcome this??