Hi Jim, this is Tom. I think this site is a good idea. It's a good idea to use Internet technologies to further the FairTax cause. Perhaps sometime if you ever have lunchtime free can I treat you in Summit at The Office or the prestigious Summit Diner?
Now I'm a member of the group. Learning my way around here.
Love this whole group thing for the Fair Tax. This is exactly what we need. It ties in to my comment the other day about what we can learn from the Obama campaign.
Jim, Thanks for your question, I am not the person to address design issues for this Ning site, but the creators of the site have allowed me to provide them advice and update some features. I think I can help on your issue about people joining. Here's how it works on NING websites. First all people that join become part of the regular members they are part of the larger membership. Then the individuals may select and join the various groups that they wish to join. No one is forced into or required to be in a group. They must choose to be in a group. If someone from NJ wishes to be in the NJ group they may join that group. Also, others may join more than one state group. You may also invite people to join a group like the NJ group - be sure to identify the URL http://fairtaxnation.ning.com/group/newjerseyfairtax for the group.
Jim Tomasik set up the various state groups trying to encourage people to join their state groups. If your willing to help as the group's administrator, volunteer and tell him, He has the option to add you as a group administrator and might even to remove himself and make you the group administrator so your info appears. We all want the people of their state to be responsible and involved even beyond their state. If you twitter, join the twitter group and twitter fairtaxnation, Hope this info helped, Dr. Bill
I am trying to get J Lescota and Jerry Skorch to also sign on the NJ group. They are presently showing up only on the main site. Jl lives in Middlesex and jerrys in my district.
That makes 4 in 2 days and I'm only 1/2 thru my d3 list
There are 2-3 people in my district who signed up for the national site. I have asked them to join NJ group. We'll top 21 shortly. Bottom line, this emailing works. Lets talk soon about a possible group in person mtg
I will call you within a few days to discuss a meeting. As of tonight, we have 30 and 4 or 5 who from NJ who signed on to the national site.
I emailed from the list up to D5 and as far back to 4/08
I hate to say it, but the first mistake your children made was to listen to NPR for information about economics or finance. I listen to NPR regularly because I have no choice where I live to get morning radio news. I can tell you that NPR is an instrument of the worst socialist sentiments harbored in this country. That said, let me offer some ideas you can discuss with your children.
The idea implied by the NPR item is that somehow saving instead of consuming is bad for us. That idea is sometimes called the paradox of thrift. According to the POT, it's great for an individual to save, but if we all do it at the same time, there won't be enough spending to drive the economy. At first blush, this seems sensible. But like most first blushes, this one is flawed to the bone.
This POT idea comes from the mistaken ideas of John Maynard Keynes. Sadly enough, lots of economists who should know better continue teach their naive freshman students this tripe. The flaw in the idea is the hidden assumption that somehow what we save does not find its way into the spending stream we call GDP. Any dollars saved by anyone does enter commerce, but the dollars are spent on capital goods (plant, equipment, research, business working capital) instead of on consumption goods. (cheeseburgers, clothes, coffee).
Another flaw in the idea is confusing money with real stuff. It will help your children understand if they imagine an economy that does not use money. In such an economy, exchange would occur through barter. In a barter economy it becomes entirely clear that production of real stuff is income. In such an economy, income is exhausted annually by consumption plus saving plus taxes. In such a barter economy, no one can borrow what has not yet been produced! That means no one can borrow unless someone else saves. That means that businesses will need households to save in order to make investments in capital goods (plant, equipment, working capital, etc.)
Japan's malaise for a decade was not caused by too much saving. It was caused by too much intervention in financial markets by the Japanese government. Of course, your children will never hear such a proposal on NPR.
The problems we are having right now in America were caused by people borrowing money instead of borrowing what had already been produced. That was made possible by the Fed. In fact, even when we do have money in the economy, no one can really borrow what has not already been produced and saved. But the Fed can delude us into thinking we can borrow what has not been produced by creating new money.
I recommend that you visit my blog at www.econoblast.blogspot.com for much more on these topics. Check out the articles I've written throughout February.
Jim, Thank you so much for the "discussion/debate" regarding the FairTax on SmartGirlPolitics. HELLOooooo we can't undo 200yrs. of tweeking w/our Constitution in one "minute". OH and the States seem to be just OKAY will taxing our incomes which could be kept in the states. Amazing! As a matter of fact "yes" absolutely one of the reasons I am for the FairTax is getting rid of the IRS & "engaging EVERY American" at the cost of our Federal Government. Keep up the good work! Goooo FairTax!
Hey Jim...Hank on Feb. 13 posted that the FairTax "excepts" education tuition. Really? I'll have to have him give me page and section because as far as I know there are "NO EXCEPTIONS" and to think that we have to share "all this information" with the FEDS to get the prebate like we do on the 1040 is also false...or am I wrong?!
Jim Tomasik
Welcome to the site.
I saw a Utube of you talking about FairTax. That would be great to have in our video library.
Thank you for supporting FairTax!
Jim
Dec 29, 2008
Tom Sulcer
Jan 11, 2009
Norman Simms
I just signed on to this site. Looks good
Jan 12, 2009
Stephanie Sharp
Love this whole group thing for the Fair Tax. This is exactly what we need. It ties in to my comment the other day about what we can learn from the Obama campaign.
Jan 12, 2009
Dr. Bill Smith / Ozark Guru
Jim Tomasik set up the various state groups trying to encourage people to join their state groups. If your willing to help as the group's administrator, volunteer and tell him, He has the option to add you as a group administrator and might even to remove himself and make you the group administrator so your info appears. We all want the people of their state to be responsible and involved even beyond their state. If you twitter, join the twitter group and twitter fairtaxnation, Hope this info helped, Dr. Bill
Jan 12, 2009
Norman Simms
Have you sent Doug an invite to this site?
Norm Simms
Jan 29, 2009
Norman Simms
That makes 4 in 2 days and I'm only 1/2 thru my d3 list
Jan 29, 2009
Norman Simms
Jan 29, 2009
Norman Simms
Yes, Please email him as an invite
Jan 29, 2009
Norman Simms
You should join the FT leadership group
Jan 30, 2009
Norman Simms
I am just realizing that alot of the leadership in our group does not show up as menbers. Please comment since I will gladly email them
Jan 30, 2009
Norman Simms
Feb 2, 2009
Norman Simms
Feb 3, 2009
Norman Simms
I had quite a flurry of reaction to my email. Will review with you shortly
Feb 3, 2009
Norman Simms
I emailed to the entire 2nd district last nite. I will do 1st tonight
Feb 4, 2009
Norman Simms
I will call you within a few days to discuss a meeting. As of tonight, we have 30 and 4 or 5 who from NJ who signed on to the national site.
I emailed from the list up to D5 and as far back to 4/08
Feb 8, 2009
David L. Kendall
The idea implied by the NPR item is that somehow saving instead of consuming is bad for us. That idea is sometimes called the paradox of thrift. According to the POT, it's great for an individual to save, but if we all do it at the same time, there won't be enough spending to drive the economy. At first blush, this seems sensible. But like most first blushes, this one is flawed to the bone.
This POT idea comes from the mistaken ideas of John Maynard Keynes. Sadly enough, lots of economists who should know better continue teach their naive freshman students this tripe. The flaw in the idea is the hidden assumption that somehow what we save does not find its way into the spending stream we call GDP. Any dollars saved by anyone does enter commerce, but the dollars are spent on capital goods (plant, equipment, research, business working capital) instead of on consumption goods. (cheeseburgers, clothes, coffee).
Another flaw in the idea is confusing money with real stuff. It will help your children understand if they imagine an economy that does not use money. In such an economy, exchange would occur through barter. In a barter economy it becomes entirely clear that production of real stuff is income. In such an economy, income is exhausted annually by consumption plus saving plus taxes. In such a barter economy, no one can borrow what has not yet been produced! That means no one can borrow unless someone else saves. That means that businesses will need households to save in order to make investments in capital goods (plant, equipment, working capital, etc.)
Japan's malaise for a decade was not caused by too much saving. It was caused by too much intervention in financial markets by the Japanese government. Of course, your children will never hear such a proposal on NPR.
The problems we are having right now in America were caused by people borrowing money instead of borrowing what had already been produced. That was made possible by the Fed. In fact, even when we do have money in the economy, no one can really borrow what has not already been produced and saved. But the Fed can delude us into thinking we can borrow what has not been produced by creating new money.
I recommend that you visit my blog at www.econoblast.blogspot.com for much more on these topics. Check out the articles I've written throughout February.
Best wishes,
David
Mar 2, 2009
Jamie Wheeler WA
Mar 15, 2010
Jamie Wheeler WA
Mar 15, 2010