Replace All Federal Taxes on Income with the Fair Tax Act , HR 25
Notes of Conference Call October 7, 2009
Date: Wednesday, October 7 , 2009
Time: 9:00 PM ET
Fair Tax Conference Call Notes
Marilyn Rickert, IL, Chaired the meeting.
* Roll call of states
AZ, CA, CT, FL, GA, IL, IN, KS, MO, NC, NE, NJ, OH, OK, PA, TN, TX, WA, WI (others signed on after the roll call)
* Introduction of Terry Stockham, terry@totalsynergysolutions.com AFFT Volunteer Chief Operations Officer, COO -- see bio below
Terry is very impressed with the volunteer group. Terry was approached because he’s worked in 23 countries and been exposed to many kinds of taxes, flat, VAT and otherwise. Nothing compares to Fair Tax. Terry has been on board for a week. Will be working with legal, accounting, compliance, and registration; will then roll out media campaign. Will call everyone.
* Grassroots question -- John Pierce NC jp150@mindspring.com
What are we going to do with the thousands of new names from the national roll-out? Grassroots leaders site is not current. Idea, get some high-school kid in Houston to receive updated list and put it in. List the NC website on the national site. NC website is good.
Other question: what is goal of campaign? We can pull over Tea Party people because they have no goals. But we have to have goals for them.
Terry: met with Leo and will come back with direction. We need to keep track of all the information. Those issues did come up at a meeting yesterday.
* FairTax car Doug Azzarito (picture below) azzarito@bigfoot.com
Fair Tax Car in Texas. Started off over one year ago. Wanted to do something more for the FairTax. Only one person in ten knows what the FairTax is. Doug owns a race car. He is a club racer, i.e., not for money. The car draws a crowd and attracts attention. Doug got sponsors to foot painting it white and putting on decals. Doug spent $2k, but that can be done for $500-$1,000. He got 30 names from grassroots list for Austin TX. Got one event for Halloween. Went to an event with a crowd. Can be done in lots of cities. Help a race car driver raise money to paint car and put decals on it. Gets awareness level up. For fundraising, let people sign the car. Doug will help locating racers in other states.
* Incorporation -- should we incorporate by region rather than state?
Floyd NE, Mary NE: Incorporate in a way that permits corporations can give. Corporations are more restricted in what they can give to than are individuals. Michigan qualified as a §501(c)(6). Can receive money from corporations, but use is restricted. Mark, Florida, is in the process of qualifying as a (c)(6). Cannot endorse or contribute to a political campaign, or even support a specific piece of legislation under (c)(3). There are other ways they can communicate to public. Mark’s corporation is named Florida Fair Tax Educational Association. If you educate about Fair Tax, you also have to mention other taxes. Florida has been studying the issue for nearly 10 months and is still studying.
Regional Incorporation. To help areas where some states are dormant. Throw out idea for discussion next time. John Collet suggested analyzing (c)(3), (c)(4) and (c)(6). Several attempts to consummate the lock box in Houston. Terry Stockham will bring this up with Carolyn Crabtree. Terry met with an attorney yesterday. Issues: how to activate the account, how the donor should write the check, how to draw the money.
* PSA -- radio ads attached (another radio ad attached)
Marilyn Rickert. Everyone should have 2 60-second and 2 30-second spots. Get them up and out on your local radio station. Dave Dayton in PA. Got a seminar up on the local cable channel - numerous times. Cost nothing.
* Event update -- Congressional Black Caucus & Storm the Hill
* What activities do we want to plan for 2010?
Marilyn was at Congressional Black Caucus with Jibari, DD for Washington DC. There were thousands of people there. FairTax was very well received. Passed out a huge amount of material. Wants to do it again next year. We need to raise funds early enough. Charlie Rangel was friendly - and non-committal.
Jim Tomasik, TN: Storm the Hill. Many FairTaxers wanted to do something on 9/11. Moment of silence at Pentagon. Thence to IRS. Speakers: one was a 14-year old, John Crohn, GA, Jessica Wexler, a Democrat, gave a fantastic speech. She told a crowd of conservatives she was an Acorn worker. The initial reception was pin-drop silence. Then she had all clapping and cheering for her because she supported FairTax.
The group went to the Congressional offices and talked to the staff. Charlie Proctor, Alaska, is prepared to go to the Democratic Congressmen’s offices. Good showing the next day. Thinking of doing it again on April 15, 2010.
Marilyn: put everybody in the same hotel. Hotels give us a meeting room. We can get a Herman Cain, who can give a training session. It could run over a 2-3 day period. 2007, had a luncheon for Congressional staff - tax aides. Need to feed them. Many things we could do.
Jamie in WA: let’s do it. Mary in NE: likes that idea. Gets the effort away from complaining. Jim Tomasik: People are open to the idea. Many supporters are not on FairTax.org or FairTaxNation. If we get social network sites, we could have 2,000 people packing the hallways. Curtis in OH: Tea-Party goers are receptive because we position the FairTax as the answer. Focus on people who are wavering or contra. Marilyn: 5 people from every Congressional District visit each Congressman’s office.
Jamie in WA: distance is far, storm the hill back in Washington State or (Jim Tomasik) the state capital. Close states can gear up to get their people to Washington DC. Idea: Get proxies who live in Washington DC to represent the distant states. Phil Hinson in GA: go to Town Halls. 2 purposes: (1) elevates FairTax in front of Congressman, and (2) brings FairTax up in front of the attendees. Sean: get petitions to deliver on April 15.
Dan Hunt at CT: for people who can’t make it - set up an appointment in district office with a tax aide. Phone banking: have people call each of every Congressman’s 5 phones.
Marilyn: CPAC. Coming up in beginning of February. Need the $4,000 in to get an ad in the book. Try to get FairTax on the podium. CPAC is not necessarily friendly to FairTax, even though they are Republicans. But thousands who show up are friendly to FairTax.
* New Confidentiality Agreement: John Collet reports that they prepared a documents from Karen Walby (Steve Hayes, Esq.), Leo turned it over to Jack Clark, Esq. and Bill Butcher. Leo said that, rather than call it a Confidentiality Agreement, there would be a “Licensing Agreement.” Waiting to hear back. Jack e-mailed a licensing agreement draft tonight. He will review it and should have information by Friday.
* Status of Database. Colin: does not know of any development. The group submitted a report on August 25, 2009. The group was told there could be delays because of the campaign. Recommendation to go month-to-month with Convio.
* Goals. Leo’s goal: to get co-sponsors on the bill. 2 new Congressman co-sponsors, Kay Granger & Ralph Hall from TX.
Kansas: got town-hall schedule and got Farm Bureau to help seed the meetings. Quote from Congressman who co-sponsored: “Your farmers are like gum on my shoe, I can’t get rid of them.”
Danny Higgins from IN: one of his congressmen is coming over, from Armstrong’s effort. Message: we want you to co-sponsor. The Congressman then goes over to Linder’s office.
Marilyn: Illinois candidates are coming out of the woodwork.
* How should we prepare for attacks on the FairTax bill?
The bill will be attacked in 2010. We need a strategy to defend it. Will postpone to next conference call.
*Huckabee called Marilyn.
Meeting adjourned ca 9:10 p.m. ET.
~JMB
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R. Terry Stockham - Our New COO (Volunteer)
A senior executive with over 40 years of business experience, including over 20 years as an executive and coach helping businesses grow and prosper in emerging markets. Terry is a Human Capital Advisor, Executive Coach, Business Advisor, and Consultant. He was founder and past Executive Director of the Human Capital Institute Eurasia, and a consultant at the Center for Talent Solutions Russia. Terry is a frequent lecturer on the subjects of human capital, organizational and leadership development, and was an adjunct professor at Wake Forest University and Thunderbird International University.
Before starting Total Synergy Solutions, a Houston based global consulting company, his career spanned companies such as Goodyear Tire & Rubber, Coca-Cola, Pepsi Cola General Bottlers, where he has held roles as Production Supervisor, HR manager, HR Development Director, Human Capital Advisor, General Manager, and Division President. Since 1999 he has consulted and coached thousands of business owners, leaders, managers, and employees across the US, Europe, Russia and Asia.
Time: 9:00 PM ET
Fair Tax Conference Call Notes
Marilyn Rickert, IL, Chaired the meeting.
* Roll call of states
AZ, CA, CT, FL, GA, IL, IN, KS, MO, NC, NE, NJ, OH, OK, PA, TN, TX, WA, WI (others signed on after the roll call)
* Introduction of Terry Stockham, terry@totalsynergysolutions.com AFFT Volunteer Chief Operations Officer, COO -- see bio below
Terry is very impressed with the volunteer group. Terry was approached because he’s worked in 23 countries and been exposed to many kinds of taxes, flat, VAT and otherwise. Nothing compares to Fair Tax. Terry has been on board for a week. Will be working with legal, accounting, compliance, and registration; will then roll out media campaign. Will call everyone.
* Grassroots question -- John Pierce NC jp150@mindspring.com
What are we going to do with the thousands of new names from the national roll-out? Grassroots leaders site is not current. Idea, get some high-school kid in Houston to receive updated list and put it in. List the NC website on the national site. NC website is good.
Other question: what is goal of campaign? We can pull over Tea Party people because they have no goals. But we have to have goals for them.
Terry: met with Leo and will come back with direction. We need to keep track of all the information. Those issues did come up at a meeting yesterday.
* FairTax car Doug Azzarito (picture below) azzarito@bigfoot.com
Fair Tax Car in Texas. Started off over one year ago. Wanted to do something more for the FairTax. Only one person in ten knows what the FairTax is. Doug owns a race car. He is a club racer, i.e., not for money. The car draws a crowd and attracts attention. Doug got sponsors to foot painting it white and putting on decals. Doug spent $2k, but that can be done for $500-$1,000. He got 30 names from grassroots list for Austin TX. Got one event for Halloween. Went to an event with a crowd. Can be done in lots of cities. Help a race car driver raise money to paint car and put decals on it. Gets awareness level up. For fundraising, let people sign the car. Doug will help locating racers in other states.
* Incorporation -- should we incorporate by region rather than state?
Floyd NE, Mary NE: Incorporate in a way that permits corporations can give. Corporations are more restricted in what they can give to than are individuals. Michigan qualified as a §501(c)(6). Can receive money from corporations, but use is restricted. Mark, Florida, is in the process of qualifying as a (c)(6). Cannot endorse or contribute to a political campaign, or even support a specific piece of legislation under (c)(3). There are other ways they can communicate to public. Mark’s corporation is named Florida Fair Tax Educational Association. If you educate about Fair Tax, you also have to mention other taxes. Florida has been studying the issue for nearly 10 months and is still studying.
Regional Incorporation. To help areas where some states are dormant. Throw out idea for discussion next time. John Collet suggested analyzing (c)(3), (c)(4) and (c)(6). Several attempts to consummate the lock box in Houston. Terry Stockham will bring this up with Carolyn Crabtree. Terry met with an attorney yesterday. Issues: how to activate the account, how the donor should write the check, how to draw the money.
* PSA -- radio ads attached (another radio ad attached)
Marilyn Rickert. Everyone should have 2 60-second and 2 30-second spots. Get them up and out on your local radio station. Dave Dayton in PA. Got a seminar up on the local cable channel - numerous times. Cost nothing.
* Event update -- Congressional Black Caucus & Storm the Hill
* What activities do we want to plan for 2010?
Marilyn was at Congressional Black Caucus with Jibari, DD for Washington DC. There were thousands of people there. FairTax was very well received. Passed out a huge amount of material. Wants to do it again next year. We need to raise funds early enough. Charlie Rangel was friendly - and non-committal.
Jim Tomasik, TN: Storm the Hill. Many FairTaxers wanted to do something on 9/11. Moment of silence at Pentagon. Thence to IRS. Speakers: one was a 14-year old, John Crohn, GA, Jessica Wexler, a Democrat, gave a fantastic speech. She told a crowd of conservatives she was an Acorn worker. The initial reception was pin-drop silence. Then she had all clapping and cheering for her because she supported FairTax.
The group went to the Congressional offices and talked to the staff. Charlie Proctor, Alaska, is prepared to go to the Democratic Congressmen’s offices. Good showing the next day. Thinking of doing it again on April 15, 2010.
Marilyn: put everybody in the same hotel. Hotels give us a meeting room. We can get a Herman Cain, who can give a training session. It could run over a 2-3 day period. 2007, had a luncheon for Congressional staff - tax aides. Need to feed them. Many things we could do.
Jamie in WA: let’s do it. Mary in NE: likes that idea. Gets the effort away from complaining. Jim Tomasik: People are open to the idea. Many supporters are not on FairTax.org or FairTaxNation. If we get social network sites, we could have 2,000 people packing the hallways. Curtis in OH: Tea-Party goers are receptive because we position the FairTax as the answer. Focus on people who are wavering or contra. Marilyn: 5 people from every Congressional District visit each Congressman’s office.
Jamie in WA: distance is far, storm the hill back in Washington State or (Jim Tomasik) the state capital. Close states can gear up to get their people to Washington DC. Idea: Get proxies who live in Washington DC to represent the distant states. Phil Hinson in GA: go to Town Halls. 2 purposes: (1) elevates FairTax in front of Congressman, and (2) brings FairTax up in front of the attendees. Sean: get petitions to deliver on April 15.
Dan Hunt at CT: for people who can’t make it - set up an appointment in district office with a tax aide. Phone banking: have people call each of every Congressman’s 5 phones.
Marilyn: CPAC. Coming up in beginning of February. Need the $4,000 in to get an ad in the book. Try to get FairTax on the podium. CPAC is not necessarily friendly to FairTax, even though they are Republicans. But thousands who show up are friendly to FairTax.
* New Confidentiality Agreement: John Collet reports that they prepared a documents from Karen Walby (Steve Hayes, Esq.), Leo turned it over to Jack Clark, Esq. and Bill Butcher. Leo said that, rather than call it a Confidentiality Agreement, there would be a “Licensing Agreement.” Waiting to hear back. Jack e-mailed a licensing agreement draft tonight. He will review it and should have information by Friday.
* Status of Database. Colin: does not know of any development. The group submitted a report on August 25, 2009. The group was told there could be delays because of the campaign. Recommendation to go month-to-month with Convio.
* Goals. Leo’s goal: to get co-sponsors on the bill. 2 new Congressman co-sponsors, Kay Granger & Ralph Hall from TX.
Kansas: got town-hall schedule and got Farm Bureau to help seed the meetings. Quote from Congressman who co-sponsored: “Your farmers are like gum on my shoe, I can’t get rid of them.”
Danny Higgins from IN: one of his congressmen is coming over, from Armstrong’s effort. Message: we want you to co-sponsor. The Congressman then goes over to Linder’s office.
Marilyn: Illinois candidates are coming out of the woodwork.
* How should we prepare for attacks on the FairTax bill?
The bill will be attacked in 2010. We need a strategy to defend it. Will postpone to next conference call.
*Huckabee called Marilyn.
Meeting adjourned ca 9:10 p.m. ET.
~JMB
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R. Terry Stockham - Our New COO (Volunteer)
A senior executive with over 40 years of business experience, including over 20 years as an executive and coach helping businesses grow and prosper in emerging markets. Terry is a Human Capital Advisor, Executive Coach, Business Advisor, and Consultant. He was founder and past Executive Director of the Human Capital Institute Eurasia, and a consultant at the Center for Talent Solutions Russia. Terry is a frequent lecturer on the subjects of human capital, organizational and leadership development, and was an adjunct professor at Wake Forest University and Thunderbird International University.
Before starting Total Synergy Solutions, a Houston based global consulting company, his career spanned companies such as Goodyear Tire & Rubber, Coca-Cola, Pepsi Cola General Bottlers, where he has held roles as Production Supervisor, HR manager, HR Development Director, Human Capital Advisor, General Manager, and Division President. Since 1999 he has consulted and coached thousands of business owners, leaders, managers, and employees across the US, Europe, Russia and Asia.
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Great job on note taking!
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Thanks!
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One clarification: the 14-year old young man from GA who spoke in front of the IRS building on 9/11 is Jonathan Krohn. He's a home-schooled dynamo who spoke at CPAC, has written Define Conservatism, and has appeared on FoxNews and on other morning news shows.
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Thanks for the clarification.
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