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Comment by Robert Williams on November 17, 2011 at 11:33am

Is there ANYONE in Corpus Christi (or immediate suburbs; Annaville, Calallan, Flour Bluff, TAMUCC, etc)  that would like to accompany me in promoting the FairTax? Just contact me.

Comment by Jordan Williamson on November 7, 2011 at 6:55pm

I've started a blog promoting the FairTax.   http://fairtaxcometh.com/

Let me know what you think!

Comment by Robert Williams on July 8, 2011 at 3:47pm

Thanks for that great information, Marv. I will repost on the FairTaxer Blog as soon as I can. We definitely need to get that out to the masses ASAP!

~Robert Williams

Comment by Marv Kuhn on July 8, 2011 at 3:36pm

Repeal of the 16th Amendment is an extremely big issue. Two of the largest self-proclaimed think tanks, The Heritage Foundation and CATO, list that at one of their biggest, if not the biggest issue, thanks to Dan Mitchell who planted that seed at both the THF and CATO. It has been taken up by Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and Laura Ingraham, who broadcast that comment. In fact, Herman Cain’s recent misstatement—that the 16th Amendment needs to be repealed before we can have the FairTax—may have had come as a result of Cain being bombarded by Rush, Hannity, Ingraham, THF, and CATO, with that indoctrination.


I have tendered the following document as a rebuttal to counter the argument. Anyone can use it if desired.
Thanks.

Marv Kuhn


Both the FairTax and an income tax?? Repeal the 16th amendment first??

Since this argument has the biggest disagreements, it requires the longest answer, so:

Facts to the contrary:

1. The FairTax bill, HR 25, has a provision which repeals Sections A, B, and C of the IRS code (ie., all federal income taxes, alternative minimum tax, estate, gift, generation skipping tax, federal corporate income tax, and all payroll taxes and unemployment taxes). The voter would not support HR 25/S 13 if repealing Sections A, B, and C was not a part of the FairTax bill.
2. HJR 16, a resolution proposing an amendment to the constitution to repeal the 16th amendment to the Constitution is awaiting passage at the same time the FairTax bill passes.
3. Public support to repeal the 16th amendment before a tax replacement is announced, will not happen because the public would not know what to expect.
4. Repealing the 16th amendment before a replacement is enacted would kill any reform. That wouldn’t sail past Congress.
5. Repealing the 16th amendment after the FairTax passes (although 2/3 vote is required in the House and Senate with ¾ of the states ratifying) is easily conceivable when taxpayers enjoy a full paycheck, no business taxes, a robust economy, and economic growth.
6. Difficult to pass any amendment?? Really?? Impossible?? The same was said about women’s suffrage, the Berlin wall. Specific amendments passed: A-18 for prohibition; A-21 repealed A-18; A-17 for direct election of Senators; A-22, 2 terms for Presidents; A-26, 18 year olds could vote; all impossible, right??

Finally, it will require each taxpayer’s vigilance to assure they speak up when anyone hears there is possible legislation to have an income (or other tax) pass while we have the FairTax. There is also presently no statutory or constitutional provision to prevent a sales tax on top of our present income tax. Why doesn’t a congressman try to pass one? Hint: political suicide. The $22 million market research confirmed that people will not want an income tax with the FairTax. What does the taxpayer like? Have you heard any taxpayers prefer the income tax or flat tax when they know all the facts about the FairTax?

Past comments were that Congress has enacted our income tax 3 times before, and it stuck. One new difference. There was no other tax plan offered to replace the income tax in the past. There is now…..the FairTax.

Marvin Kuhn, State Director, Volunteer
Americans for Fair Taxation
vrkuhn@yahoo.com

Comment by Michael Eldridge on March 7, 2011 at 8:13pm

Very informative, John. Thank you.

Comment by John Gaver on March 7, 2011 at 7:51pm

Actually, the FairTax is the "ONLY" tax reform proposal on the congressional table that IS constitutional. It's the only one that meets the Constitution's apportionment clause.

 

However, I do understand where Smith is coming from. The only form of taxation that would be an even closer match to constitutional requirements, would be direct taxation of the states, by apportionment and then let the states collect and remit the taxes, as they choose.

 

However, no such proposal exists before Congress at this time, so lacking such a proposal, the FairTax remains the only tax reform proposal, that meets the Constitution's apportionment requirement and exists in the form of a bill in Congress.

 

His is a good idea. But unfortunately, even the Flat Income Tax, which has almost no congressional or public support, has much more support than does his proposal.

 

If Mr. Smith can get his concept into the form of a bill in Congress, I would certainly consider supporting it, if it's constructed properly.

 

I suggest that if Mr. Smith is so intent on returning all taxation to the states, he should either pressure his congressman and senators to introduce such a bill or run for Congress himself.

Comment by Michael Eldridge on March 7, 2011 at 1:11pm

I wonder on what grounds Mr Smith feels the FairTax is unconstitutional? Perhaps he believes that any tax collected by the federal government is unconstitutional? I guess that would be a valid point of view, but completely unrealistic. The federal government is a necessary evil and needs to be funded in some way, and the FairTax is the best, cheapest, fairest way to do that.

Comment by Jim Tomasik on March 7, 2011 at 1:00pm

Sounds like he wants to return to the 16th Amendment.  Lucky him, he doesn't have anywhere to go.  Just like his ideas on tax reform.

Comment by Marv Kuhn on March 7, 2011 at 12:51pm

Anyone interested in  a response to this comment from Paul Smith?

	Marv Kuhn <vrkuhn@yahoo.com>

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The Fair Tax is unconstitutional.  We need to return to constitutionally mandated tax processes and return the power to the States.   Sincerely, Paul R. Smith Wild animals can sense the storm is coming hours before it arrives.

Comment by Adrian B Early on December 29, 2010 at 7:03pm

This (ballot initiative approach, or at least getting the word out) might be done mainly through online means. But there would probably need to be physical locations to sign petitions.  New candidates supporting the Fair Tax (and their campaign organizations) might help. 

-ABE

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