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Replace All Federal Taxes on Income with the Fair Tax Act of 2011, HR 25 & S 13

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How would Fair Tax affect Landlords

Started this discussion. Last reply by Judy O'Hare Apr 6, 2010. 4 Replies

We have rentals and are wondering how FT would affect our bottom line?  I know we would have to pay the 23% but what would happen to the rest of our deductions.  As you know we take a deduction for…Continue

 

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Judy O'Hare commented on Jim Tomasik's group Ohio OH FairTax
"so glad your meeting was a success.  So what is a flash event?"
Aug 17, 2011
Judy O'Hare commented on Jim Tomasik's group Ohio OH FairTax
"I too will contact Rep Chandler. It's amazing that many think the VAT is a good idea."
May 27, 2010
D. L. Corder left a comment for Judy O'Hare
"At 12:33pm on April 11, 2010, D. L. Corder said… Judy, My comment is more lengthy than that which FairTax Nation will allow for comments. If you will e-mail me at popcornco@gmail.com, I will e-mail you back with my response. This comment…"
Apr 12, 2010
Marilyn Rickert left a comment for Judy O'Hare
"Hi Judy! It depends on if the tax is imbedded -- the price on the "shelf" includes the tax or if it is added at the "cash register". Which ever method is used the tax paid is the same and the tax would be visible on the receipt…"
Apr 10, 2010
Judy O'Hare left a comment for Marilyn Rickert
"I was told by a gentleman from Ok that the FT would be added on to the rents that renters pay now, rather than deducting it from what they pay.. The prebate that they get covers those taxes plus the increased spending power that they get with FT."
Apr 10, 2010
Judy O'Hare left a comment for D. L. Corder
"Read other comment 1st. To many characters to add all text. Tony Leach April 10 at 8:49am Report Hey Judy This is my job. I head up the Research & Education Committee here in Oklahoma so I live for this. Any and all questions are welcome. I…"
Apr 10, 2010
Judy O'Hare left a comment for D. L. Corder
"I had the following email exchange with a FT expert in Ok. See what you think-- Fair Tax Between Tony Leach and YouEarlier Messages Tony Leach April 10 at 12:35am Report Well you are providing a service and under the FairTax that would be subject…"
Apr 10, 2010
Marilyn Rickert left a comment for Judy O'Hare
"Hi Judy! Check out the answer to your question at: http://www.fairtaxnation.com/profiles/blogs/how-the-fairtax-pertains-to?commentId=2636007%3AComment%3A98646&xg_source=msg_com_blogpost When you sell you property, there would be no federal…"
Apr 10, 2010
Judy O'Hare left a comment for D. L. Corder
"I'm wondering if the plan would be to deduct expenses 1st before adding on the FT--that would make better sense. It might encourage LL to maintain their properties. Collecting before expenses, certainly doesn't encourage anything."
Apr 7, 2010
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Apr 6, 2010
Judy O'Hare left a comment for D. L. Corder
"Thanks for you help. I posted a response to KW's blog. It would be so much easier to understand if a comparison could be done before & after possibly using the Schedule E & the Depreciation Schedule. My question to her was re the…"
Apr 6, 2010
Judy O'Hare commented on Marilyn Rickert's blog post How the FairTax pertains to rental property.
"So, we've already taken some of the depreciation for the property, there would be no recapture of that when the house is sold, right? Also, 23% of the rents that we take in now would be taxed? How would the taxes on services be saved if the…"
Apr 6, 2010
D. L. Corder left a comment for Judy O'Hare
"Karen Walby has responded to your question. Please check the Main Page, then select "Communicate & Blog" for her answer. My previous answer to you was only partially correct. I must say I not only do I not like Ms. Walby's…"
Apr 6, 2010
Judy O'Hare replied to Judy O'Hare's discussion How would Fair Tax affect Landlords
"Thanks so much, I'm glad I'm not the only one that couldn't understand that language. I will be waiting to see what you find out."
Apr 6, 2010
Judy O'Hare replied to Judy O'Hare's discussion How would Fair Tax affect Landlords
"Thanks, It would possibly help if I could understand it. I'm a show me person & need a good example."
Apr 3, 2010
chiefcook replied to Judy O'Hare's discussion How would Fair Tax affect Landlords
"JAMES A. BAKER III INSTITUTE FOR PUBLIC POLICY; RICE UNIVERSITY published this research report. THE IMPACT OF H.R. 25 ON HOUSING AND THE HOMEBUILDING INDUSTRY There is a section starting around page 30 that may give the answers you and your…"
Apr 3, 2010

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At 10:01am on April 12, 2010, D. L. Corder said…
At 12:33pm on April 11, 2010, D. L. Corder said…
Judy, My comment is more lengthy than that which FairTax Nation will allow for comments. If you will e-mail me at popcornco@gmail.com, I will e-mail you back with my response. This comment would also apply to Tony Leach, as I will copy him the e-mail I send to you.
At 11:22pm on April 10, 2010, Marilyn Rickert said…
Hi Judy!

It depends on if the tax is imbedded -- the price on the "shelf" includes the tax or if it is added at the "cash register".

Which ever method is used the tax paid is the same and the tax would be visible on the receipt so people would know exactly how much they are paying in taxes.
At 5:31pm on April 10, 2010, Marilyn Rickert said…
Hi Judy!

Check out the answer to your question at:
http://www.fairtaxnation.com/profiles/blogs/how-the-fairtax-pertains-to?commentId=2636007%3AComment%3A98646&xg_source=msg_com_blogpost

When you sell you property, there would be no federal taxes due. You would keep 100% of your money -- except for state taxes. We are working to eliminate them too.

Keep asking questions!!!
At 6:52pm on April 6, 2010, D. L. Corder said…
I totally agree with your analysis. I will wait until you receive an answer from KW before I add any more comments, other than the following. Like you I am very concerned about the impact the FairTax will have upon the rental market as a whole. As you know, there is very little embedded Federal taxes in rental properties. Therefore there is not much room to lower rents. Most of the taxes that owners incur, are state and local Real Property taxes, so there is very little wiggle room to lower rents. Hence the FairTax would create a significant tax on top of already depressed rents, which could have a devastating affect upon the rental market.
At 2:41pm on April 6, 2010, D. L. Corder said…
Karen Walby has responded to your question. Please check the Main Page, then select "Communicate & Blog" for her answer. My previous answer to you was only partially correct. I must say I not only do I not like Ms. Walby's response (although I'm sure she is correct), I was very disappointed in the definition of rental income as now being considered a housing service. It appears they have taken an "Investment" which is currently considered and reported as "income," and have now defined as a housing "service," thereby, making it subject to the FairTax. This revolting development, does not deter my enthusiasm for the FairTax, but it does make me wonder what other types of income producing investments are now considered a service.

Perhaps this is one of those areas of the current proposed legislation H.R. 25, that needs further review and perhaps be amended before the final bill is adopted. I plan to pursue that issue, as it appears to me to be contradictory to so many of the things the FairTax promotes, with the idea of a consumption tax being better than an income tax, yet (at least in this example) they are just shifting what was previously taxed as income to a service and now taxing the same income as a consumption tax.
At 3:24pm on March 19, 2010, Billie said…
Thank you for joining FairTax Nation and the Ohio group. Have you visited a FairTax meeting? We have a Columbus group that will let you know things that are happening. Also, check "events". Billie in Beavercreek, OH
 
 
 

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