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Fair Tax Leadership

This group is for all AFFT Personnel from Houston, our Regional Directors, State Directors, District Directors, Community Coordinators, and FTN coordinators to share what we're doing, discussing what works and what doesn't.

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I only have an AAS degeree, I know many of you have more college education than that but one of the things that was stressed in several courses was goal setting, I'm possitive that has been the case in many of your courses as well. Especially in business management classes. If the Fair Tax has set goals each year they have kept them a secret, I've been on their mailing list for years and I've never seen specific goals laid out. I have mentioned a more "organized" approach several time and sort of rebuffed saying this is a grassroots movement. What is to say grassroots can't organize into beautiful sod? There are a couple of states that seem to be organized on the state level and that is commendable. Can we make it 50 states in 2009?

Please respond and let's make this happen.

Dave Sibole

Discussion Forum

Fair Total Government?

Started by Adrian B Early. Last reply by Adrian B Early Sep 2, 2013. 3 Replies

Fair Tax: "Fiscal Cliff" Solution

Started by Adrian B Early. Last reply by Adrian B Early Dec 30, 2012. 1 Reply

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Comment by Adrian B Early on February 3, 2012 at 7:11am

A friend gave me an amusing sign reading: 

"If a man speaks and there is no woman there to tell him he is wrong ... is he?" 

I Love my sweetie, and highly value her insight.  More poignant to me is this question: 

If a man acts and there is no government regulator there to tell him he is wrong ... is he? 

Or, related specifically to this forum: 

If a man fails to pay his taxes, and there is an IRS program he buys access to through former IRS agents, tax lawyers and accountants that says, "It is Ok; with your bribery to get our help, you get 85% of that obligation dismissed" ... is it Ok? 


Comment by Mark Schaff on January 19, 2012 at 6:59pm

Where can I find the list of state directors for each state. FOr some reason I can not find it the page.


Comment by Adrian B Early on January 9, 2012 at 1:25pm

Big Government Example

I mentioned big government in the last posting below.  Do we want big government? 

India has a big government.  See http://seekingalpha.com/article/317303-why-india-is-not-a-meaningfu... for personal perspective of that author. 

India's government has been huge enough (on both taxation or "revenue" and regulation sides) long enough that their government officials are even more crooked than those here in the US.  Though we are working very hard to catch up with them. :-) 

From https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankord..., estimated GDP / Capita 2010: 

India GDP / Capita:     $  3,500

US GDP / Capita:         $47,200


Comment by Adrian B Early on January 7, 2012 at 4:51pm

Freedom to Grow

I found this description very interesting from a FairTax.org email: 

How to Kill a Vampire named Washington, D.C.Sunshine State News

...To fend off a vampire, one must use garlic or a crucifix. In this instance, garlic will be the passage of the Fair Tax. The Fair Tax will replace the current confiscatory, incentive-killing federal tax code. The personal income tax, payroll tax, capital gains tax, corporate income tax, and estate tax would be eliminated under the Fair Tax and replaced by a national consumption tax on all retail purchases. Each American citizen will decide when he or she pays taxes under the Fair Tax based on when he or she makes a retail purchase. The cost of compliance will decrease to almost nothing... 


I had been focusing on the global competitive advantage of a consumption tax over taxing production.  But there is also a freedom benefit to this. Of course, I know and have heard repeatedly that folks can choose under the Fair Tax when they want to pay taxes (due to wanting to spend).  But now I understand this much more deeply. 

As it is now, the only way people can choose to not “afford” paying extortion demands from DC is to quit producing.  Same thing if they cannot afford the “time” (or hassle) to enslave themselves to account for IRS reporting demands.  Quit producing (economic gain), and no longer be enslaved to report.  So, actually, many people are NOW choosing to not pay taxes or do accounting slavery by not growing businesses, etc. 

Enough is enough.  And extreme penalties for doing "more" than is enough are not attractive (to most folks).  Even if it means not helping others a person would otherwise employ or work hard to give to. 

Additionally, with the Fair (consumption) Tax we could still have high taxes and big government if we are stupid enough to want that.  But STILL NOT KILL INCENTIVE TO PRODUCE!!!  With (say) 90% Fair Taxation, if everyone wants that, people would have NO disincentive to build businesses.  If they live at the poverty level (consumption) they would pay exactly the prebate in taxes (no net tax) and can still create jobs for others and products for Americans, American businesses, and foreign consumers to buy.  No reason not to help the American economy grow. 

And if they get so rich that they do not mind paying 90% tax (given this desirability of a huge government, and ignoring the Laffer curve http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laffer_curve), then they might want to spend some and pay that tax.  But we (the US) would then no longer punish them for growing jobs and the American economy. 


Comment by Adrian B Early on December 31, 2011 at 11:27am

Let's Get This Done!

A friend called today to let me know he would not be in church tomorrow due to business income tax related inventorying he must do to satisfy his masters in DC and their demand he perform this unpaid accounting slavery (my description, not his). 

I mentioned the Fair Tax and that he already collects sales tax, and would only do so also for the Federal Government.  He likes a flat tax, but thinks we will not get anything like it.  I pointed out that the Fair (consumption) Tax is better than even a flat income tax for global competitiveness since we would then tax access by foreign suppliers to US consumers (as well as by domestic producers) but would NOT tax exports. 

My real point is this: 

Whenever you see someone enslaved by the present tax masters, why not mention the Fair Tax to them.  Be looking for such opportunities. 

Even more "actively", might we seek to get promotion through groups who would benefit from simpler tax reporting (for example)?  Like securities firms (whose clients may stay away from the stock market partly due to the hassle of reporting all gains and losses, or due to business cycle instabilities and meltdowns the present tax code makes worse http://fairtaxnation.ning.com/group/fairtaxleadership/forum/topics/...). 

I do not like lobbyists usually.  But finding powerful groups to lobby for the Fair Tax (and perhaps fund ads) might just push this to completion. 

At this time we are close: 

"According to POPVOX, “The "Fair Tax Act" took two spots in the top ten list, with the House version, H.R. 25, ranked second in popularity and the Senate version, S. 13, ranking ninth - both with 80% support!" 

Let's get this done. 


Comment by Adrian B Early on December 17, 2011 at 1:12pm

My Liberal friends and I have come up with a project we (likely) can both support.  We will PERSONALLY (not "collectively"; not by government) help former victims of human trafficking to “go mainstream” in society. 

My point is this, regarding "Liberals": 

Their causes are our causes.  We are Americans (and America), after all.  Perhaps even more importantly, we are Christians (and Christ in our world).  Hence, “the least of” God’s children; all our siblings in God’s family are our cause (even rich ones, not just poor). 

May there one day be no liberal or conservative as there is becoming no black or white (race).  Only the human race.  And only caring people. 

Fair Taxation will help us all do that better. 

Merry Christmas, Y’All. Or Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, and / or New Year, etc.; whatever holiday(s) you celebrate with your loved ones. 


Comment by Adrian B Early on December 7, 2011 at 5:01am

A Nation of Busybodies

I have been email discussing with two liberal friends issues of regulation (especially) and secondly, taxation. 

From this, I am learning what regulation really is. 

If your neighbor, or especially a stranger from up the street came to your door and started questioning how you ran your business, and telling you how to run your business, would you: 

1) Thank them for their kind assistance? 

2) Say, "Yes sir" (or Ma'am), of course I will obey your commands? 

3) Politely invite them back out the door? 

4) Do so less politely, saying "Mind your own ____ business"? 

5) Punch them in the nose? 

Nobody likes busybodies.  But America (and seemingly most nations that have "progressed" this far) have people sitting around at their homes or "occupying" Wall Street, or costing citizens in other downtowns wanting to tell politicians to build bureaucracies (of professional busybodies paid by your taxes) to tell You, me, and everyone else in the nation how to run our businesses.  They mind our business (and do little themselves). 

But it is customers who (should, I believe) decide if what "You" or "I" do is valuable to them. If your customers do not like your service, they WILL choose another.  Do you need DC to tell you what you clients want? 

There is another group that tells DC politicians what the professional busybodies should demand of your business.  They are "experts" in the industry.  In fact, they are big companies whose paid lobbyists demand that you be regulated to be "just like them", or your service is not good enough.  Do those competitors (in this lobbying) have your customer's best interest at heart (as the fraudulent regulatory story goes)? 

This is Fair Tax Nation Leadership Forum.  What does this posting have to do with (Fair) Taxation?  Many of the professional (tax lobbyist) busybodies want to control you (personally and business practices) for their benefit through taxation.  Politicians want power to meddle in your financial affairs, and tax you if you do not bow down and worship them. 

I say, let's replace meddling government busybodies with the free (competitive) market (decommission regulators), and enact simple, Fair Tax(ation). 


Comment by Adrian B Early on December 3, 2011 at 6:08pm

Herman Cain has dropped out of the Presidential race. 

http://www.the912project.us/forum/topic/show?id=2881797%3ATopic%3A2... and you heard this already. 

The power we have invested in government is so massive, that crooked politicians have incentive to destroy the lives of opponents if necessary with fraudulent accusations (bought from others), to gain access to tax money and power (including tax CODE money and power). 

Communist and Fascist "leaders" have often used such sleazy tactics (leading later to mass murder when power grew unchecked).  Is it any wonder we "could" have this in the present situation (considering the (let's say "alleged") history of Cain's main "opposition")? 

It is time not only to shed political correctness, but pledge our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor to prevent annihilation of American excellence.  Will you do so? 


Comment by Adrian B Early on November 25, 2011 at 9:18am

Political Correctness is a synonym for fraud.  It is time we speak and write plainly. 



Comment by Steve Curtis on November 16, 2011 at 8:32pm
Just to drop an idea on everyone, we are putting together a couple of groups that are going to do a Black Friday FairTax Flash. Basically, just get to the stores before they open on Black Friday, hit the lines and hand out FairTax cards, and mention to the folks that, if the FairTax was passed, they'd have 20% more to spend because they'd get to keep their whole paycheck, and they'd have better paying jobs, because the FairTax will create 10 million of them!!.

The way we figure it, if OWS can camp out for months at a time to get their message out, we can spend an hour or so handing out info and talking to folks before the stored open at the mall.

Just a thought

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