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Fair Tax Leadership

This group is for all AFFT Personnel from Houston, our Regional Directors, State Directors, District Directors, Community Coordinators, and FTN coordinators to share what we're doing, discussing what works and what doesn't.

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I only have an AAS degeree, I know many of you have more college education than that but one of the things that was stressed in several courses was goal setting, I'm possitive that has been the case in many of your courses as well. Especially in business management classes. If the Fair Tax has set goals each year they have kept them a secret, I've been on their mailing list for years and I've never seen specific goals laid out. I have mentioned a more "organized" approach several time and sort of rebuffed saying this is a grassroots movement. What is to say grassroots can't organize into beautiful sod? There are a couple of states that seem to be organized on the state level and that is commendable. Can we make it 50 states in 2009?

Please respond and let's make this happen.

Dave Sibole

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Fair Total Government?

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Fair Tax: "Fiscal Cliff" Solution

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Comment by Adrian B Early on August 23, 2011 at 10:58am

Posterity: you will never know how much it has cost my generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make good use of it.

   - John Quincy Adams

Comment by Adrian B Early on August 20, 2011 at 1:08pm

The Rich Model does not (have to) use much debt.  And when it does use debt, it uses less than assets. 

 

The Poor and Government model uses much more debt than they have assets in place earning income.  For example, about 41 % of US government spending is now paid from floating more (T Bill) debt.  Debt that they "Quantitatively" Ease their pain in renting. 

 

The financial crisis was started by debt held by deadbeats who could not pay.  Part of the cause of this is government and "community organizer" groups forcing banks to make bad loans to "redistribute" the "American Dream" of home ownership.  Bribery for political gain. 

 

We need poor, middle class, government, and charities (not just rich and companies) to work on the "endowed" model of paying expenses out of income from assets they own.

 

Get yourself on that plan. 

 

Deleveraging is not just happening (in most of the world), it is absolutely necessary to restore any semblance of a reasonable domestic economy.  The world will continue to move that way whether we lead or not. 

 

The Fair Tax (on consumption not production) will bring back businesses and their income to the US sufficient to pay down our debt (eventually) and get all players in the US economy on (or at least nearer) the "endowed" plan for finances. 

 

Then we can make progress, instead of fuel insolvency for Americans and American institutions. 

 

-ABE

Comment by Adrian B Early on August 20, 2011 at 11:19am

The Fair Tax is NECESSARY to simplify and rationalize government.  But not sufficient.  It is not all that we need.  We also need financial prudence and honesty.

 

Consider this: 

 

1) The Rich model of finance is used by the rich and by companies. 

2) The Poor model of finance is chosen by the poor and our government.

 

3) The poor pay high interest on their payday loans.  Government is a high credit risk borrower that prints money to buy their own debt to make their interest rate borrowing costs low instead of high. 

Sometimes that is called stealing or “counterfeiting”. 

 

-ABE

Comment by Adrian B Early on August 2, 2011 at 6:45pm

I am reading Rich Dad’s Conspiracy of the Rich: The 8 New Rules of Money by Robert Kiyosaki, also author of Rich Dad, Poor Dad: What the Rich Teach their Kids That the Poor and Middle Class do Not (the bestselling personal finance book of all time). You should read these also. 

 

Kiyosaki said (among other things) this: 

 

While a student in Dr. Buckminster Fuller’s class in 1981, I was disturbed to hear him say, “The primary purpose of government is to be a vehicle for the rich to get their hands into our pockets”. 

 

Disturbing indeed.  Think about it. 

 

So, a complicated tax code directed by lobbyists (rich person's lackeys), debauching the currency with (raised limit) debt and "quantitative easing" to pay for it, political payback ("contracts",  laws, etc.) favorable to crony big businesses and unions is for the benefit of "rich people". 

 

Come to think of it, our Socialist in Chief seems to be (perhaps I am mistaken?) a great, "highly placed" lobbyist residing right in the white house, performing pick - pocket services for the "the wealthiest Americans and biggest corporations" (the "rich people" he pretends to repeatedly rail against in exactly those words). 

 

We need more and better taxes?  Fair Tax folks say no.  Hope and change illusionists?   You answer. 

 

-ABE

Comment by Adrian B Early on July 15, 2011 at 7:02am

Mr. Obama spent more than allowed by the debt ceiling law.  Now HE needs to eat his peas. 

 

Shall we all contact and suggest to our congresspeople (and president) that they fire 90 % of all IRS staff to save "expenditures" and implement the Fair Tax NOW? 

 

Or fire 100 % of IRS and start the new sales tax overview agency with 10 % or less of IRS former head count.  The existing agents have hubris and are incapable of giving good "Service". 

 

-ABE

Comment by Adrian B Early on July 1, 2011 at 7:02am

Marv, I really like the article you posted by Charlie Reese.  Our government (545 politicians and their hires) do not want to solve problems.  Only create them and buy votes running against those messes they caused. 

 

He said: 

 

Not one of these (about 45 different) taxes existed 100 years ago, & our nation was the most prosperous in the world.
We had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world, and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.

 

We solved our own problems locally without paying government to do it for us.  We had barn or house raisings.  Freemasons and "citizens" ran schools in Texas and earlier in the "colonies" (13 states).  Not government.  Can we do that again? 

 

Gandhi organized a march to the sea to "illegally" make salt rather than buy British salt from their monopoly on that commodity.  Non - violent non - cooperation. 

 

Since politicians choose not to serve the citizenry, should a significant group of Americans choose to refrain from filing or paying taxes?  Then our 545 masters might figure out a (Fair Tax) way to continue taxing us. 

 

Quiet non - filing and non - paying of income and payroll tax already is massively widespread through barter, etc. 

 

More importantly, can communities support their needs again (as 100 years ago) without federal government "help"?  What if we started rebuilding the alternative to uncle Sam?  Might politicians again listen to we the people? 

 

-ABE

Comment by Marv Kuhn on June 30, 2011 at 11:15am


Volunteers in Minnesota and throughout America:   

FairTax supporters should melt down Congresswoman Michele
Bachmann’s phone today if they really want to promote the FairTax.  

Yesterday on the Rusty Humphries Show, a national talk show,
she stated the FairTax was great but didn’t think it could pass, and one of the problems was that, many states already have an income tax, and we would be putting a FairTax on top of the state’s income tax! 

If anyone knows that they have already let her know that the
FairTax replaces the income tax, then Minnesotans should be twice as
upset with her misinformation and “emphatically  express disappointment” with her deceptive political agenda.

 Passionate FairTax supporters, stand up against the public misrepresentation of the FairTax!

Marv Kuhn

Comment by Marv Kuhn on June 29, 2011 at 11:42am
Charley Reese's final column for the Orlando Sentinel...
He has been a journalist for 49 years.
He is retiring and this is HIS LAST COLUMN.

Be sure to read the Tax List at the end.

This is about as clear and easy to understand as it can be. The article below is completely neutral, neither anti-republican or democrat. Charlie Reese, a retired reporter for the Orlando Sentinel, has hit the nail directly on the head, defining clearly who it is that in the final analysis must assume responsibility for the judgments made that impact each one of us every day. It's a short but good read. Worth the time. Worth remembering!

545 vs. 300,000,000 People
-By Charlie Reese

Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them.

Have you ever wondered, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, WHY do we have deficits?

Have you ever wondered, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, WHY do we have inflation and high taxes?

You and I don't propose a federal budget. The President does.

You and I don't have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives does.

You and I don't write the tax code, Congress does.

You and I don't set fiscal policy, Congress does.

You and I don't control monetary policy, the Federal Reserve Bank does.

One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one President, and nine Supreme Court justices equates to 545 human beings out of the 300 million are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.

I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered, but private, central bank.

I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason. They have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman, or a President to do one cotton-picking thing. I don't care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it. No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator's responsibility to determine how he votes.

Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party.

What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall. No normal human being would have the gall of a Speaker, who stood up and criticized the President for creating deficits. The President can only propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to accept it.

The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving appropriations and taxes. Who is the speaker of the House? John Boehner. He is the leader of the majority party. He and fellow House members, not the President, can approve any budget they want. If the President vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto if they agree to.

It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million cannot replace 545 people who stand convicted -- by present facts -- of incompetence and irresponsibility. I can't think of a single domestic problem that is not traceable directly to those 545 people. When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise the power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist.

If the tax code is unfair, it's because they want it unfair.

If the budget is in the red, it's because they want it in the red.

If the Army & Marines are in Iraq and Afghanistan it's because they wantthem in Iraq and Afghanistan ...

If they do not receive social security but are on an elite retirement plan not available to the people, it's because they want it that way.

There are no insoluble government problems.

Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take this power. Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exists disembodied mystical forces like "the economy," "inflation," or "politics" that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do.

Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible.

They, and they alone, have the power.

They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses.

Provided the voters have the gumption to manage their own employees...

We should vote all of them out of office and clean up their mess!

Charlie Reese is a former columnist of the Orlando Sentinel Newspaper.

What you do with this article now that you have read it... is up to you.
This might be funny if it weren't so true.
Be sure to read all the way to the end:

Tax his land,
Tax his bed,
Tax the table,
At which he's fed.

Tax his tractor,
Tax his mule,
Teach him taxes
Are the rule.

Tax his work,
Tax his pay,
He works for
peanuts anyway!

Tax his cow,
Tax his goat,
Tax his pants,
Tax his coat.

Tax his ties,
Tax his shirt,
Tax his work,
Tax his dirt.

Tax his tobacco,
Tax his drink,
Tax him if he
Tries to think.

Tax his cigars,
Tax his beers,
If he cries
Tax his tears.

Tax his car,
Tax his gas,
Find other ways
To tax his ass.

Tax all he has
Then let him know
That you won't be done
Till he has no dough.

When he screams and hollers;
Then tax him some more,
Tax him till
He's good and sore.

Then tax his coffin,
Tax his grave,
Tax the sod in
Which he's laid...

Put these words
Upon his tomb,
'Taxes drove me
to my doom...'

When he's gone,
Do not relax,
Its time to apply
The inheritance tax.

Accounts Receivable Tax
Building Permit Tax
CDL license Tax
Cigarette Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Dog License Tax
Excise Taxes
Federal Income Tax
Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
Fishing License Tax
Food License Tax
Fuel Permit Tax
Gasoline Tax (currently 44.75 cents per gallon)
Gross Receipts Tax
Hunting License Tax
Inheritance Tax
Inventory Tax
IRS Interest Charges IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
Liquor Tax
Luxury Taxes
Marriage License Tax
Medicare Tax
Personal Property Tax
Property Tax
Real Estate Tax
Service Charge Tax
Social Security Tax
Road Usage Tax
Recreational Vehicle Tax
Sales Tax
School Tax
State Income Tax
State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
Telephone Federal Excise Tax
Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Tax
Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Taxes
Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax
Telephone Recurring and Nonrecurring Charges Tax
Telephone State and Local Tax
Telephone Usage Charge Tax
Utility Taxes
Vehicle License Registration Tax
Vehicle Sales Tax
Watercraft Registration Tax
Well Permit Tax
Workers Compensation Tax


STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY?
Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, & our nation was the most prosperous in the world.
We had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world, and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.

What in the heck happened? Can you spell 'politicians?'

I hope this goes around THE USA at least 545 times!!! YOU can help it get there!!!

GO AHEAD. . . BE AN AMERICAN!!!
Comment by John Wesley Nobles on June 23, 2011 at 2:36pm
So right Steve, I will be calling you later to get the program working.
Comment by Steve Curtis on June 23, 2011 at 2:25pm

John, Jamie, and Others:  

You might start promoting the Five for FairTax give by cell number.  If they text "fairtax" to 95459, people can join the Five for FairTax campaign, or donate larger amounts if they so choose.  

 

Just another way to make it easier for people to show their support for the FairTax, and help us promote it at the same time.

 

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